Okay, I think the iPlayer is a bad thing. It's Windoze only, it's all DRM'd up which given the recent issues with Google videos scares anyone sensible. Basically IMHO it's a bad investment of my license fee.
All that said... the UK papers ( http://www.last100.com/2007/08/13/iplay ... y-uk-isps/ ) are reporting that the ISPs want a nice little payment from the Beeb to pay for the extra bandwidth it is going to use.
What a bunch of sharks!
Net neutrality campaign for the UK required ASAP, if you ask me.
Okay, here goes, bandwidth use is what causes people to buy the bigger packages from ISPs, making them more money. So the reality as I see it is that this is not about the bandwidth.
It's about setting the precedent, that ISPs want to get away with charging content providers to ensure that their content makes it to us fast. The ISPs reportedly are already starting to throttle certain content back. ( ... Channel4’s peer-to-peer catch-up service was already being penalized by ‘packet shaping’ )
Now, I might actually want that Channel4 content and pay for an ISP to serve me that conent as fast as it can. I might want content from a radical website that thinks hey ISPs are all evil. Should the ISPs have the right to throttle that? What about my Judo content? Do I have to pay even more to get that to people who want it?
Who gets to decide what content gets precedence? What criteria are going to decide what gets the precedence?
Here is a scenario to consider...
What is an ISP is owned by a someone who supports say the BNP political party?
That owner starts throttling all the websites of say Labour and the Conservatives, etc. Whilst of course giving precedence to the BNP site.
Is that right?
I like my web equal, lets keep it that way.
It is imbalanced enough as it is, without allowing ISPs start forcing content providers to pay for precedence. I hate the iPlayer, get cross platform BBC!!! And how about OPEN!! But BBC fight this one hard! Political types fight this one hard!
Maybe http://www.openrightsgroup.org/ will pick up and run with this one. Or the EFF ( http://www.eff.org/ ) http://www.savetheinternet.com/ will hopefully?
UPDATE 14 AUgust 2007:
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/08/14 ... ed_in_uk/1 - Bit-tech discuss it also
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/14 ... _analysis/ as does the register
All that said... the UK papers ( http://www.last100.com/2007/08/13/iplay ... y-uk-isps/ ) are reporting that the ISPs want a nice little payment from the Beeb to pay for the extra bandwidth it is going to use.
What a bunch of sharks!
Net neutrality campaign for the UK required ASAP, if you ask me.
Okay, here goes, bandwidth use is what causes people to buy the bigger packages from ISPs, making them more money. So the reality as I see it is that this is not about the bandwidth.
It's about setting the precedent, that ISPs want to get away with charging content providers to ensure that their content makes it to us fast. The ISPs reportedly are already starting to throttle certain content back. ( ... Channel4’s peer-to-peer catch-up service was already being penalized by ‘packet shaping’ )
Now, I might actually want that Channel4 content and pay for an ISP to serve me that conent as fast as it can. I might want content from a radical website that thinks hey ISPs are all evil. Should the ISPs have the right to throttle that? What about my Judo content? Do I have to pay even more to get that to people who want it?
Who gets to decide what content gets precedence? What criteria are going to decide what gets the precedence?
Here is a scenario to consider...
What is an ISP is owned by a someone who supports say the BNP political party?
That owner starts throttling all the websites of say Labour and the Conservatives, etc. Whilst of course giving precedence to the BNP site.
Is that right?
I like my web equal, lets keep it that way.
It is imbalanced enough as it is, without allowing ISPs start forcing content providers to pay for precedence. I hate the iPlayer, get cross platform BBC!!! And how about OPEN!! But BBC fight this one hard! Political types fight this one hard!
Maybe http://www.openrightsgroup.org/ will pick up and run with this one. Or the EFF ( http://www.eff.org/ ) http://www.savetheinternet.com/ will hopefully?
UPDATE 14 AUgust 2007:
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/08/14 ... ed_in_uk/1 - Bit-tech discuss it also
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/14 ... _analysis/ as does the register


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